Wednesday, June 18, 2008



(Edited repost):

I've decided to censor one of my previous postings. I received an e-mail recently from a woman complaining I'd used her e-mail without permission and wanted me to pull it down, and I have. I didn't have any obligation whatsoever to remove her e-mail (it's not copyrighted, and I removed her name and e-mail address) but I did anyways, because I think she's unstable and her mood is easily affected by what other people say to her.

But this experience has led me to decide to only use my own words on this blog from now on. The decision will mean I will have more opportunity to improve my writing, since I'll be doing more of it! Please keep sending me your thoughts, but from now on I will only paraphrase, in an effort to become more professional.

This was my reply by e-mail to her (translated from the Chinese):

"As for the blog post, it doesn't have your name, email address or any personal info -- don't worry. I would never post anything like that without your permission"

"Anything like that" is obviously talking about your personal information, not your e-mails. Since you don't understand, we're going to use Chinese from now on when we communicate to avoid misunderstandings. The e-mail you sent today implied I am immoral, but this issue has in fact 100% been caused because of your own misunderstanding. I stand by what I say, so if you blame me I can only tell you to do some thinking about your own attitude in life. Perhaps there is a chance that when you think you're being bullied, meeting with trouble, or unhappy, perhaps it isn't always just other people, perhaps the issue also has to do with you.

In the future, if you've got whispers to tell, unspeakable things to confess, you should find your husband and tell him. You must be clear already that I'm here to discuss, debate, and explore issues to find truth. If you want to cry and complain, that's fine, but it's not my responsibility. If what you are sending me is like this --- if it's complaining with no wish to find a solution --- then I'm afraid I can't help you.


Chris

(ADDED:)

Below is an e-mail I sent to XXXX.


Hi XXXX,

First of all, I apologize for being overly rude, I disagree with you that your privacy was invaded, but I do agree that it was unprofessional from a journalistic point of view not to obtain your permission before posting -- especially since you made it clear you didn't want it seen.

So anyways, what I wanted to say was I hope you'll accept my apology for being unprofessional (that part of your argument I wholeheartedly accept) and it has made me a better "blogger" by engaging in this discussion (argument?).

I hope you can understand my emotional response to your demand you take it down: I LOVE debate, and when it was to be curtailed, I got a bit angry. In the future, I hope you'll be able to trust me in telling me your thoughts, and trust that I will maintain an understanding about how your thoughts will be used. I won't in the future post any messages I receive. If I use any information sent to me, I will first ask permission, then paraphrase only.

I'd appreciate us using Chinese sometimes too, I think it's only fair that I should get some practice discussing in my second language as well -- especially if we aren't posting on a blog for non-Chinese speakers to read :D.

Your friend,

Chris

5 comments:

gao yi said...

the girl is really too sensitive!

Anonymous said...

I’m the one who wrote email to Chris and who he towards anger to. Well, actually the reason I wrote to him because I thought he was very friendly. The first email I sent to him has mentioned my status and some thoughts about my experience in Canada. Yes, I admit I was trying to share my experience with someone that I consider might be my friend. The next day he posted my first email on his blog without my permission which made me asked him the reason, and I politely asked if he would removed it at once cause I’m not used to see my personal life were posted on website for everybody to see and I found it really hurt my feeling and make me extremely angry and embarrassed.

This is what he replied to my email :
Hi xxxx,

Thanks for the reading suggestion, I'm going to check it out. As for the blog post, it doesn't have your name, email address or any personal info -- don't worry. I would never post anything like that without your permission.

Xxxxx

Based on this (above) email, I sent to him my new experience happened at place where happened in last weekend. I swear that I would never intend to write email to him, if he didn’t tell me that he would like to hear anything about what I experienced in Canada. Also he said that “He would never post anything like that without my permission.” seems so sincere and make me feel secure to express myself. But still he posted my email on his blog without asking my permission. I had asked him to remove twice, the last email he sent to me exact as below :

"As for the blog post, it doesn't have your name, email address or any personal info -- don't worry. I would never post anything like that without your permission"

中文翻译: "至于我博客的条子, 我并没有发表你的名字,你的电子邮件地址或者任何别的关于你个人的消息---- 别担心,我不会发表那种东西除非我得到你的允许."

"那种东西" 明明是说你个人的消息.

你既然看不懂, 我们以后要用汉语交流,必免你误解我的话. 你今天发的邮件意味着我的人品有问题, 但这件事情100% 属于你自己的误解罢了. 我说的话是尽我所可能可信的, 但你如此责怪我便让我不得不建议你回去反省自己的生活态度: 是否有可能在你认为自己被欺负, 遇难, 难过的时候,有没有可能不仅仅是别人错的, 有没有可能错误也属于自己的.

你说我应该尊敬我自己说的话.那么,我就要那样做.你以后如果有什么悄悄话, 不可告别人的事情, 最好给丈夫说说. 你已经很清楚我是要通过讨论,争论,探讨而找到真理.哭着抱怨是可以的, 但这不属于我的责任. 如果你给我发的故事和情况只是这个意思的话 --- 只是想抱怨而不想解决问题,---- 那我恐怕不能帮助你.

克里斯

Today I noticed that he has re-edited and reposted some his thoughts about me and this issue, and I really don’t appreciate what he has said about me.

Do you feel that Chris should be allowed to do this to people that he didn’t intend to help? Now I would like to hear your comments about this issue, I would like to hear your opinion about anything that contributes to this experience I have had on this site.

Thank you very much for taking your time read this and to share your opinion with us.

I appreciated a lot!

Janet

Brandon said...

Janet,

I have been following the issue, and have had several discussions about the issue off line.

First: I would like to point out that you came to Chris, a blogger, by way of his blog.

Second: that after posting your first email, you ACCEPTED, after not asking him to take the whole thing down.

I agree, he should have asked you for your permission first.

However , your whole point of starting this discussion about your life was to have it read by other people, and get an outside perspective of your situation, and get some advice. (right?)

Chris, the nice guy that he is, wanted to help you, and put it to his readership to comment and help.

However, once you read that his suggestions accused YOU (heavens no!) of some wrong doing, such as allowing the woman to ruin your day, YOU, now are attacking Chris.

From a purely logical perspective, you have a few issues you need to work out. Stop this "poor me" attitude, and start living your life. Stop blaming others for your attitude ineptitude.

End of story.

Brandon

Janet said...

Hi Brandon,

Thanks for comment.

I'm not sure how much information your privy to, but the points I take issue with are not from comments or discussions generated from the posting. The point I take issue with is, the fact that after I friendly indicated my concerns regarding posting without permission, nothing was done about it. In fact, contrary to what you said, I did ask him to remove the whole thing. Obviously, nothing has come about that request, as we wouldn't be speaking about this had it been granted.

Considering the legitimacy of blogs as a form of journalism these days, not obtaining permission or respecting requests for privacy first is strong way of persuading people from not coming forth and sharing their comments.

Quite simply, the principle of it all is what I take issue with, not the content.

Janet

Janet said...

Hi Chris,

Thanks for your letter. In regards to what you said, I also agree with you that my privacy was not invaded. Perhaps it was a poor choice of words, so for that I apologize. But in regards to the other areas you spoke about, I'm very appreciative regarding the thoughtfulness and consideration of your words. Actually, I do understand that none of this was intentional, so I don't personally hold any bad feelings or anything. I guess I was just a bit more vocal on the subject since "user" comments were coming up that I felt were necessary to respond to.

Anyway, thanks again for your understanding. I really do appreciate it. I hope you keep working on your blog, as I'm sure you enjoy working on it as much as we enjoy reading it!

Sincerely,

Janet,